Curse

tomcruisejr · Oct 29, 2005, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by smurfhunter

all in all this like iway plague really isnt there in the later maps, and especially in the hoh itself. what i do hate is how all these nubs are cruising to rank 6 with this =/

check the fotm history. ^^

the rank 6-9s now who got their ranks on spamming are now setting rules. gay.

smurfhunter · Oct 29, 2005, 11:37 PM // 23:37

no other fotm can net you fame as fast as iway. check spirit spamming, its a holding build. you dont win quick fame from that. air spike requires ts/vent. etc. iway is the only one where you can get some total degenerates, say "<--- winnow" and your off to some easy fame.

tomcruisejr · Oct 29, 2005, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by smurfhunter

no other fotm can net you fame as fast as iway. check spirit spamming, its a holding build. you dont win quick fame from that. air spike requires ts/vent. etc. iway is the only one where you can get some total degenerates, say "<--- winnow" and your off to some easy fame.

whats wrong with people getting that added emote, aka rank, which imo is not the basis for skill, in less time?

smurfhunter · Oct 29, 2005, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

whats wrong with people getting that added emote, aka rank, which imo is not the basis for skill, in less time?

anet has the shittiest way of helping people find a group. in pve this means spamming. in tombs, it means asking for a __ ranked played, with the assumption that someone ranked at least __ cant be thaat bad. something that used to be true...

i kind of miss the days when you would see like 1 deer in tombs, and it would be like.. wow...

tomcruisejr · Oct 29, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by smurfhunter

anet has the shittiest way of helping people find a group. in pve this means spamming. in tombs, it means asking for a __ ranked played, with the assumption that someone ranked at least __ cant be thaat bad. something that used to be true...

i kind of miss the days when you would see like 1 deer in tombs, and it would be like.. wow...

well, i miss the olden days in tombs when people can just pug, play and have fun without the /rank.

smurfhunter · Oct 30, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

well, i miss the olden days in tombs when people can just pug, play and have fun without the /rank.

i kinda do. kinda...

KuTeBaka · Oct 30, 2005, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by MarkyX

After the update with all the nerfs and IWAY pet builds weren't around, I had a much easier time getting into a group. Let's put it that way.

Get a guild, get some contacts, add some friends. Pretty soon you will have people asking you if you want to play with them.

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Originally Posted by MarkyX

IWAY has major advantages in KOTH battles and flag runs. Usually an IWAY cannot stand a healing ball, but in flag runs, that isn't possible. IWAY works like a very retarded yet powerful swarm. If one guy goes alone, you lose.

Are you kidding me? Get a monk, heal the runner. IWAY sucks in RELIC runs because the runner has no way to heal but iway. That equals 6 pips of regen, if you cannot outdamage that your build really sucks.

Every time i go in tombs I hope to go against Iway for the free faction and fame.

ange1 · Oct 30, 2005, 12:17 AM // 00:17

fame should only be given in random arena

Shadowspawn X · Oct 30, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

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Originally Posted by schutz

IWAY is pathetic, NERF RANGER SPIKER BUILD ASAP then europe will stop getting favor

Whats pathtic is so many people lose to them, because they rode the flavor of the month to get their fame be it smite or spirit spam and they got less skill than they let on. Rangers have been nerfed to death already. The answer to this is just win. Stop losing and the builds will die. Becuase there will be no point to them. The constant PvP whining is driving more people from the game than IWAY or Ranger spikers ever will. If IWAY and ranger spikes dissappeared tomorrow how is that helping the game? The same small group of elitest jerks no giving anyone a group. How is that helping PvP? Some micro-community within the game trying to dictate who and how everyone else can play? There are more newbs than vetern players which is proven by all the IWAY builds. So its the need of the many versuses the needs of the few. Anet would be crazy to cator to this small group, cause 50 bucks is 50 bucks. The so called elite veterans could quit tomorrow and it wouldnt make a bit of difference.

smurfhunter · Oct 30, 2005, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by ange1

fame should only be given in random arena

lol wtf there would be bots with more fame than me

knives · Oct 30, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Lmao, who pugs anymore? I stopped, and started doing it with my guild when we have the time. If all a person can do is play a W/R, you know where he got his Rank X from.

And IWAY is not overpowered, if it was, why does it not win halls consistently? If your team cannot bring a counter to it (Aegis, Ward Against Melee, etc), then if you face a normal group (usually atleast 1 w/r), your monks will waste alot of time healing each other. Not preparing for counters to FotM builds in tombs is like not bringing a snare in Competition Arenas: you won't win if your target doesn't get hit, and you won't win if everyone on your team is getting hit simultaneously.

Sjacob33 · Oct 30, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53

I run a N/Mo and i can take an IWAY build one on one no worries when runnin curses and blood and a bit of healing can keep myself alive beter than an W and make him so piss weak he can't do shit to me

Melkor Pvp · Oct 30, 2005, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Because IWAY is the only reason to play a W/R.
Without IWAY, W/R have no use in pvp.

Ever heard of Tiger's Fury?

MarkyX · Oct 30, 2005, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by knives

Lmao, who pugs anymore? I stopped, and started doing it with my guild when we have the time. If all a person can do is play a W/R, you know where he got his Rank X from.

Exactly my point. IWAY, ranger spiking, and rank is killing off the competition. New players have no chance in hell to GvG or PvP (those 1 mill accounts? Know a couple of people who bought the game and sold it on ebay the next day. Does Anet still count these?)

I can't wait till the huge world tournament, which will be spike verses spike.

Yawn.

Sagius Truthbarron · Oct 30, 2005, 03:29 AM // 03:29

If you can't beat standard IWAY teams then you need to be nerfed..

Learn to play before you enter the tombs. You don't know how many terrible rank -1 pugs there are in districts 2-8 in the North American server.

Good IWAY teams are anti-idiot. IWAY wouln't get you to the halls.

Are you saying that IWAY is an exploit becuase.. Why? It's easy to get people for?

Indian · Oct 30, 2005, 03:42 AM // 03:42

IWAY = Make Good Monks outta crappy monks

thats all i can say

Roza · Oct 30, 2005, 03:51 AM // 03:51

IWAY does not need to be nerfed. Parties and guilds that only accept people above a certain rank should be, because they force the inexperienced player to go IWAY for fame-farming.

Ok, now I am overstating my point, I know.

Please do NOT nerf builds that are NOT in need of nerving, Anet!

knives · Oct 30, 2005, 04:38 AM // 04:38

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Originally Posted by MarkyX

Exactly my point. IWAY, ranger spiking, and rank is killing off the competition. New players have no chance in hell to GvG or PvP (those 1 mill accounts? Know a couple of people who bought the game and sold it on ebay the next day. Does Anet still count these?)

I can't wait till the huge world tournament, which will be spike verses spike.

Yawn.

Wow, what else is new? It's always been spike vs spike. It just depends on your coordination, your team, and your tactics around the maps. The rank system was flawed to begin with, and rank does not equal skill in anyway. Whoever doesn't realize that (more than half the gw community) is not someone I would want to pug with anyway. Rank X is not a guaranteed win, but it helps, and only that. It only shows that you know your way around the maps and what to do in certain situations. You obviously have not had enough skill to overcome an IWAY team, and you should really try to find some people to tombs with on a constant basis in order to realize that IWAY does not need to be nerfed.

Nerfing anything that can kill you is just blatant whining. (Unless its bugged) I have even seen requests of making IWAY an elite skill, which seems ludicrous because of its horrible effect, that should not even be put on your skill bar unless you are acutally running an IWAY build.

TheCrusader · Oct 30, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46

IWAY Is so weak.. doesnt even get much faction farming anymore, everyone brings a counter to IWAY nowadays heres one...

DUST TRAP

Hannibel · Oct 30, 2005, 04:55 AM // 04:55

iway has no reasons to be nerfed if your going to be running a build to counter another build you shouldn't even be in tombs

if the teams who ran good builds got owned by iway group, then there build was trash because a good one wouldn't loose to an iway group

the people who win hoh with iway groups, don't run usually your normal stupid, tainted necro and order necro with 6 iway warriors, they have more depth into there builds and that's the reason why they win

if you don't play in tombs because you can't find a group then you were never anygood, if you were really looking to find a group to get a team that has more depth and has more chance of winning then an iway group you'd prob go to int districts or do a guild group that has a balanced build which is usually more successful

only people who complain about iway being nerfed are noobs, people who actually pvp deal with it and make a build around potentually running into an iway group